Saturday, July 10, 2010

A Response

The 20/20 show generated a lot of comments on this blog and other news sources. One comment from Sadie really stands out and says so eloquently what a lot of us are feeling. So I am pulling that comment up into a post as suggested by A_News_Junkie. ;)
"Watching this made me cry for Kari. And for Linda and Jim, and for all of Kari's students and friends and family... and mostly for her precious girls who have been lied to and brainwashed, controlled and exploited by their mother's killer, so shamelessly and for so long.

It's beyond tragic, that a man in a position of trust as a worker for God could harbor this unbelievable level of evil inside. That a man trusted by his wife could set out to utterly and heartlessly destroy her like this; that a man trusted by his little girls could rob them of a normal life; that he would scheme to erase the beautiful love their mother had for them, and they for her; that a man trusted by the family could so hideously betray and destroy that trust and care nothing for their shattered lives and broken hearts.

It is the epitome of EVIL. He not only carried out a heinous, cruel, premeditated murder by tricking his wife, he also proceeded to protect himself from the consequences of his actions by trying to murder her good name and her good memory, and by perverting the love in his children's hearts. He turned them against their mother and taught them to hate those who sought the TRUTH about what he had done. He has controlled the girls' minds and kept them imprisoned in his dark web of lies for all this time (with the help of his mother), effectively forcing them by default to act as unwitting accomplices in his cover-up! My heart breaks for them. That is a violation of the highest order.

Yeah, this made me cry. But I will rejoice with you and the Dulins and all who seek justice, when Kari's girls are brought home, and when their hearts and minds are finally free of the mystification that keeps them from accepting the truth and remembering the love of their mother and their other family.

Justice for Kari, part one: Matt Baker has lost the right to live free in society. He is where he belongs. One day, the girls will be where they belong, too: back in the arms of love. And that will be the fulfillment of Justice for Kari.

Love trumps evil. Oh, yes it does."

If you have general comments or thoughts on the show, feel free to leave a comment on this post. I'll be posting some more specific things throughout the day.

Friday, July 9, 2010

Video from 20/20 - Vanessa Bulls

Murdering Minister's Lover Tells All
Pastor Matt Baker used sex game to drug wife, former lover Vanessa Bulls says.



WARNING: Matt Baker's description of his wife is not for the ears of children.

The 20/20 Buzz

There is much talk, chat, articles, blog posts and comments in the air as everyone anticipates sitting down and watching 20/20's update tonight. I thought I'd share some links here. If you find some in your local papers or websites or anywhere else, please comment on this post or email me and I'll include them here.

Was Pastor's Double Life Motive for Murder?
20/20 - By JIM AVILA, SUNNY ANTRIM and JOANNE NAPOLITANO

When asked by Crawford Long if Matt Baker ever told her anything about Kari's death, he said, Bulls confessed to an affair with the preacher and knowledge of his alleged plans to kill his wife. "'Yes, he told me he killed her because of me,'" Long recalled her saying.


Why Would a Popular Baptist Minister Murder His Wife?
ABC News Press Room

In an exclusive television interview from prison, ABC News Correspondent Jim Avila talks to Matt, the popular Baptist minister from Waco, Texas, convicted of murdering his wife and staging it as a suicide.


20/20 to air update on pastor convicted of murder
Bob Allen - Associated Baptist Press

He was indicted in 2009 after a female member of his church who first denied having an inappropriate relationship with Baker changed her story and told authorities the two were having an affair and that Baker told her he killed his wife so they could be together.
Crawford Long and Susan Shafer, assistant district attorneys in McLennan County, Texas, recently published a detailed account in an online trade journal of allegations by their star witness, Vanessa Bulls, that helped convince a jury to, on its first ballot, unanimously find the former preacher guilty of murder.


20/20 to air update on Matt Baker story
Christa Brown - StopBaptistPredators.com

According to investigators, Baker had also spent years living "a secret life as a sexual predator." Yet, despite multiple allegations of sexual assault and abuse, he was always able to move on through churches, schools and organizations affiliated with the Baptist General Convention of Texas.No one stopped him.Not until he was put on trial for murder did people in the pews finally learn about the sexual abuse and assault allegations against him.


ABC's 20/20 to feature report on Baker
WacoTrib.com

A 19th State District Court jury convicted Baker of murder in January in the April 2007 drugging and suffocation death of his 31-year-old wife at their Hewitt home.


Then there are countless websites that are posting about this that refer back to other articles, either AP, or ABP or the WacoTrib:

ReligionNewsBlog.com
BaylorInformation.com
Facebook - Texas Monthly
TheGospelNewsWire.com
BaptistPlanet.com

Wednesday, July 7, 2010

20/20 Teaser

Why Would Preacher's Wife Commit Suicide?
"When devoted mother Kari Baker is found dead, suspicions surround her husband."

There is video footage in this that I haven't seen before. There are some great pictures/videos of Kari and the girls. And then there are a couple of the "closed-eye" (non-flattering) pictures of Kari that were probably submitted by Matt's mother as she has done in the past to continue to try to disparage Kari's image/memory.

But as in life, the good way outshadows the bad.

Wednesday, June 30, 2010

20/20 - Friday, July 9


Just got word that 20/20 will be airing their update show on Friday, July 9th. This will include material from the trial and also their prison interview with Matt.

I'm sure after this Friday's show on another topic, this link to their main page will start showing material related to this case.

Thursday, June 17, 2010

She speaks for many.....

I found this wonderful post on an online message board that talks about this case quite a bit. Great forum! I PM'd the author and told her who I was (she sounded like she already knew....is a reader of this blog) and asked if I could share what she wrote here. So with permission:

I still try to find information on this case and it never ceases to amaze me the degree of dysfunction that still appears to be going on in it. I came across this article when trying to see what was decided with the precious children. http://tinyurl.com/34bfx2h

A few quotes:
Barbara added Matt’s 14-year-old daughter is expected to testify in Wednesday’s hearing after researching the amicus attorney aspect. “She’s ready to say I do not want an amicus, we have what we need,” Barbara said of her granddaughter. “She understands what she says is legal and will be written down, and is OK with it. She’s very mature for her age. “The Dulins have a feeling they cannot control Beverly Crowdin, and they like to control everybody in the case,” Barbara added. “If they can’t, they try to get rid of them."

What child would know or speak of this? Why are these children prepared to testify? Why are they not being shielded from adult matters? Why are they not being told that the judge will decide where you can best heal, grow, learn and flourish in spite of what has happened and either way-- you are blessed little girls with two sets of grandparents whom love you and want the best for you?

What bothers me is the way that matt and his mother have always attacked the Dulin family and continue to do so even in light of the trial. If they say these things publicly about the maternal grandparents and the victim - my God, I can only imagine what is said privately. Is this not alienation? I sure hope a court will see that these girls are in continuing danger and what appears to be brainwashing. Makes me want to ask barbara baker, is matt more important than these girls? Why try to take even more from them that what they have already lost? Why not allow them to love the grandparents whom they loved dearly (by all accounts) prior to all of this? I can only fear that one day these girls will grow up and resent the bakers for what they did to them, for their own gain.

What do you guys think? Anyone local who can give us insight? Is it just me or does anyone think that it is horrible for these children to be taken to a prison? Especially if they have not had counseling and come to their own decision of what happened? Is that not trying to make them believe their father is innocent and how can that be good for them right now?

I will never forget the words of Linda Dulin - thus, why it remains in my siggy line!
"However in order to heal, in order to point the way for our own granddaughters, in order to show God how grateful we are then we have to step out and forgive. So we do. We forgive, because that’s the only way Matt. The only way that love that makes the way, so that eventually, eventually just as in this case.. LOVE TRUMPS EVIL. That’s all."

I have spent a lifetime advocating for children and for the life of me I don't understand how these children are still in this home.

Saturday, June 12, 2010

Kari Humor =)

Received this email yesterday from a dear, close friend of Kari's. With permission, I share it with you here. Put a big smile on my face.....and chillbumps while I was laughing out loud.


"Like I said, Kari and I were very close friends. We both moved and lost contact with each other. I only learned a year ago what happened to her. So I recently took a trip to Waco. I hadn't been there in 10 years. I wanted some closure to our friendship, or maybe just something that proved to me that she was really gone, so I decided to visit the cemetery. It took me an hour (even with directions) to find the spot. I walked around in the Texas summer heat! I could practically feel Kari laughing at me. When I did find "her", I stood peacefully for about 45 seconds trying to feel close to my dear friend. Out of the blue, the sprinklers turned on and literally drenched me from head to toe! An all-out forceful spray of water right at me! Of course I screamed and ran away. And then laughed. If Kari was there watching me, and I believe she was, I know she was laughing at me. I also think she was telling me that I don't need to go to a cemetery to feel close to her.

She is right in my heart, forever. Just a reminder that Kari is still with us."


I have to add something that just tops it off perfectly. This close friend had plans to meet Linda for lunch. And she did. Soaking wet. If Kari was laughing before, she was certainly ROFL at this. ;)

Tuesday, June 8, 2010

"Kari's Law" in the news again!

JAN AND TOM PURDY: Couple pushes for autopsy law
San Angelo Standard Times


"An illuminating article in the Feb. 7 Waco Tribune-Herald revealed that in the first year a justice of the peace receives only six hours of training in determining deaths. With all the other duties of a justice of the peace — performing marriages, issuing warrants, setting bail, conducting criminal and civil trials — it seems that determining death is one duty that should be void of discretion and ultimately up to a medical professional.

Since causes of death are not always obvious, especially when criminals go to great lengths to deceive law enforcement officers, 'Kari’s Law' would require either a full or partial autopsy in cases where a person dies as a result of suicide.

Texas does not need to experience another State v. Baker, and Texas families should not have to request a formal inquest hearing to find the truth." (read more)
I'm sorry. It seems my links to the letters you can write for Kari's Law up on the top right column are broken. I think I need to re-load the letters to GoogleDocs. Will do so and let you know when they are ready again. Passing "Kari's Law" would save sooooooo many families the years of angst and injustice that Kari's family had to endure. This is something worth printing and signing a letter for. Justice for Kari can equal justice for so many others!

Eyes for Lies

Eyes for Lies has had some very insightful things to say about this case over the years. Her latest blog post: Matt Baker Gives Jailhouse Interview

"In the second interview, Matt confirms for us, he does want an appeal. Then he says something chilling. He says, 'I honestly know, and I know it is hard to...to get it across, but I loved my wife, even though I made a mistake.'

That's the understatement of the century, Matt. Your mistake was that you got too cocky and confident and your behavior, words and history caught up with you and gave your lies away." (read more)
You can read past thoughts of Eyes for Lies:
Matt & Kari Baker
Matt Baker

Saturday, June 5, 2010

3 Minutes of more claiming of innocence

Matt Baker claims innocence to News Channel 25 from prison
KXXV - Channel 25

Click on the link above and then click on the 3:00 video. Remember the warning given when watching Matt talk about Kari.

There are so many known "when I'm doing this, I am lying" signs that Matt Baker just can't seem to work through. I won't outline them here for his mom to document and work on with him. Even if they did work on it, it wouldn't help. He's just that blatant.

Over and over and over again, Matt claims that the ENTIRE WORLD is lying and conspiring against him and he's is telling the absolute truth. Only thing he ever lied about was the affair and he's kinda/sorta coming clean about that now. So why don't we just set him free? (Someone, somewhere made an exhaustive list of all the people that must be lying and conspiring if Matt were actually telling the truth. If anyone remembers where it was posted, email me. It was a great visual of this "vast conspiracy.")
Thank you, Anonymous Commenter for pointing out where the list was. I'll C&P here:
"So let me get this straight. Baker is asking us to believe that all of Kari's friends, co-workers, and her therapist, the Dulins and all their family, a majority of people who worked with Matt, his last four employers, the Hewitt Police department, JP Billy Martin, State experts who have never met Baker, Pharmecutical web site owners, the DAs office, a few former girlfriends and one mistress, his neighbors and co-workers, the news media from 4 different networks and all their independent experts, Lawyers Gray, Danforth, Schwieger and now Judge Strother.... All conspired to to get Matt convicted of a crime he says didn't happen."

There's a lot of commentary I could go on with about the lies and ridiculousness of everything he says, but I don't have that much time. But one point Matt makes in this video is beyond the normal self-righteous ridiculousness. He says, of course, Kari did this to herself. Maybe intentionally. Maybe on accident. Seriously, Matt? On accident? She accidently overdoses.........BUT........WAIT FOR IT...........she somehow finds a way in her overdose stupor to drag her dying body to the computer and compose and print a note saying that she is INTENTIONALLY COMMITTING SUICIDE??? Was she thinking, "Hey, I accidently did this to myself but why not go out with a bang and totally obliterate my childrens', husband's, parents' and families lives and make them think I killed myself. I just had to get away from them somehow. Won't this be a fun, quirky way to go?" Come on, Matt.


I would also like to highlight a comment left on the Channel 25 website by a "Questions." Seriously? This person is very close to Matt. It's obvious. Only 2-4 people still think this way....and one doesn't have access to the internet, most likely.


"Questions:There will be a day when the evidence (lack there of) will be viewed and it will show that there was nothing but opinions in this case. If everyone that had affairs handled it by murdering their spouses, we would certainly lower the population. I guess it still isn't clean whether Kari meant for the death to happen, or whether it really was an accident. We may not ever know that. However, it is very obivious that she was not murdered. How was she murdered? Police showed there was "nothing" except wine cooler in bottles, Tox screen could not have been accurate or it would have shown the Xanex in her system that her mom gave her a week before. (as Xanex is a slow half-life) and ME from Dallas saw no marks on face, it was only after pictures got to Lubbock ME that the "marks" showed up??"


After reading this, Sadie emailed me a response to Questions that she sent but was too long for admission. It's an excellent response and I think it should be out there. With her permission, I am posting it here:


Sadie:Oooops! Somebody's caught the nasty little Fabrication Bug from the killer preacher. ~ "Nothing but opinions in this case?" FALSE. People don't get convicted on "opinions." Re-watch the trial. Loads of evidence. ~ Matt was convicted on an assumption that any cheating husband whose wife dies, killed her? FALSE. Infidelity IS a common motive for spousal murder, though, and appears to have been one motive in this case. He was a PREACHER. One who said, "Divorce was never an option." ~ It isn't clear whether the murder victim meant for the death to happen?! FALSE. And cruelly absurd. ~ "We may never know" whether it was an accident? FALSE. Ridiculous! A person who accidentally overdoses could not type up a fake, unsigned "suicide" note! And you can't "accidentally" show signs of having been dead for four hours, only 40 minutes after being alert and speaking. ~ Police showed there was nothing in the bottles? FALSE. ONE empty, clean bottle was found in Matt's trash long after Kari died. Why only one? Why clean? There were TWO bottles on the nightstand in the photos from that night. ~ Toxicology data from the autopsy was relied upon at trial as accurate? FALSE. As the expert witnesses testified, toxicology can't be accurate on an embalmed, exhumed body. ~ Marks on Kari's face only "showed up" after the Lubbock ME examined the photos? FALSE. Marks are plainly visible on Kari's nose/lip in police photos taken that night. The Dallas ME who conducted the exhumation autopsy examined a discolored, partially decomposed, exhumed body for gunshots, knife wounds, or blunt trauma. The Lubbock ME simply examined the Dallas ME's autopsy photos and saw the corresponding mark which matched the wound visible in the death scene photos. The jury saw it, too. ~ There really are not too many remaining unanswered "questions." A big one for me is, why would someone come here with lame and misleading attempts to defend a lying, cheating, scamming, sociopathic murderer at this point? What's in it for them?
That's it for now. Really cool day coming up. Peace out.

Friday, June 4, 2010

Tommy's visit with Baker

Baker maintains innocence from behind bars; blames attorney, mistress and judge
Tommy Witherspoon
WacoTrib.com

"Matt Baker’s mistress lied. At least three other women who said he is a sexual predator lied. His lawyer sold him down the river and his trial judge committed judicial misconduct.

Baker’s appellate attorney won’t do what he says. His in-laws and their attorneys manipulated the legal system. The jury got it wrong.

All these factors aligned in a perfect conspiratorial storm to send an innocent man to prison. At least that’s what Baker, a former Baptist minister, said Wednesday." (read more)


Matt Baker finally tells the truth. About one thing. He says there is "not one piece of evidence" against him. You're right, Matt. There's not one. There's a thousand and one. So ready for the cows to come home on this. It won't be long until no one will be cooperative with Matt's pleas for "10 more minutes."

Thursday, June 3, 2010

Longing for 10 more minutes, I guess...

"News Channel 25's Bruce Gietzen interviewed Baker for an hour Wednesday at his new prison home in Livingston, Texas where he is serving his 65 year sentence.

Baker discussed Vanessa Bulls testimony and their affair, problems with his attorney Guy James Gray, and some things he feels he should have done differently in that trial." (read more)

WARNING: Get your barf bag ready. Seriously. He is trying to convince you that he loved his wife....loves his wife. He wouldn't do anything to hurt her.


I don't see a link for the bits of interview that were aired at 5:00 and 6:00 but I'm sure they'll be up soon on the Channel 25 website. But in the midst of all the serious malarky Matt tosses out there, I had one serious "Laugh Out Loud" moment. If you watched, I'm sure you did, too. More on that in a little bit.


Basically what it looks like Matt is doing is using his past media "connections" to get back in the spotlight. Maybe, he hopes, 10 more minutes and he can catch the eye of some attorney that will look deep into his baby blues and feeeeeeeeel his innocence and looooooong to help him with his travesty of justice.........for FREE, of course. Surely there's an attorney out there that's......well, surely not. They would be an idiot to stand next in line after all the experiences with his 10ish other attorneys begging and clawing to get away from him.


Anyway, more news sources on this coming up soon. 20/20 and 48 Hours have also told me that they will let me know as soon as they have air dates and I will post that on here for you all.

Tuesday, May 25, 2010

Baker transported to East Texas Prison to serve life sentence
Channel 25 - KXXV.com


"WACO - The former Waco-area pastor convicted of murdering his wife in 2006 has been moved to his permanent cell unit of assignment in the state prison system. "

"He has been reportedly assigned to field duty, tending to crops at the 2,900 inmate facility." (read full article here)

I find it very interesting that after extensive and specific physical, mental, occupational and psychological testing that they deemed the fields to be the ideal spot for Baker. A job requiring no education or specific skills at all. It's going to be one, long, hot summer!

Transferred....

My contacts have informed me that Matt has been transferred to his new permanent home at the Polunsky Unit in Livingston, Texas.

Monday, May 10, 2010

Another Kerrville Voice

A new email from a concerned resident of Kerrville:

For it is by grace you have been saved through faith-and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 NIV

Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men, who cannot save. Psalm 146: 3 NIV

faith: 2 b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust. Merriam-Webster Online

The Bible seems to indicate that only God is worthy of our faith (belief without proof). Mortal men should have actions that merit our trust, and my understanding of scriptures is there should be limits when putting our faith in a man. There are many examples of people putting too much faith in someone believed to be “a man of God”: Jim Jones, David Koresh, child molesting priests, etc.

I suspect that most everyone reading this blog has a firm opinion concerning the guilt or innocence of Matt, and I doubt that anything written by me would change your opinion about that issue. Matt’s future does not seem to be the primary concern of current contributors to this blog. The futures of Kensi & Grace are now at issue.

The Friends of Kensi and Grace Baker Fund group is taking actions which could have an impact on their futures. This group seems to take it as a given that remaining with the Bakers is in the best interest of Kensi and Grace. I do not think that is correct. Thus, it seems to be appropriate to direct some questions and comments to a couple of the people listed as Co-Chairs in the brochure.

To the Co-Chair who testified in the sentencing phase of Matt’s trial that a man could be a “good” father even if he murdered his child’s mother, I have the following questions for your consideration and reflection. Do you still believe this? If you do, what act would a man have to commit for your value system to tell you he is a “bad” father?

To the Co-Chair who “stayed away from knowing the evidence on the case on purpose” concerning Matt? I hope and pray you are not taking the same approach in “knowing” what is best for the girls’ futures.

Saturday, May 8, 2010

Seriously??!?!?! [EDIT]

I have received an email that touched my heart. And I will respond to that person privately. I do not want to cause grief to "innocent" parties. There is something strange going on with all this and until I know more of the particulars, I will try to protect the "innocent." For that reason (and that reason alone), I am removing my earlier post. I do not want to cause this third person harm or embarrassment.

I corrected my statement from saying the third person was the one who put this brochure together. That was my error in the post and it was an innocent one. According to the email I received, she was not involved at all. I still find that bothersome and the whole thing seems rather dubious. I'm not the only one. The Kerrville people I have heard from are bothered by the whole thing as well. I will post something about that in a little bit. I'm trying to hold out judgement as best I can. I just never imagined a Co-Chair printed on the back of the brochure would have nothing to do with it.

All that said, I removed the earlier post and am replacing it with this one. I did this strictly as an act of kindness. NOT because of a threat. I corrected my innocent error. The rest of what I said is just documented fact. But I will still err on the side of over-kindness on this matter.

I do still urge the Founder to answer questions posed to him in some of the comments here so maybe the world can understand his motives and desires in this matter. I mean, why not? Help us understand.

Thursday, May 6, 2010

Email from Kerrville

I received this very kind and passionate comment on a post here and I wanted to share that along with my response.


"Shannon,
I am the person who initiated the Friends of Kensi and Grace group. After reading the original email you posted from a person who received the mailing and the comments posted to date, I want to clarify some unfounded assumptions that unfortunately have been reached. First of all, Barbara Baker had nothing to do with the initiation of this effort. In fact, when first approached about the idea she expressed reluctance and continued to do so until the week of the mailing. The brochure was designed without any input from her and to my knowledge she didn’t see it until after it was finished. She also did not spend one penny of her resources for the mailing. I personally paid for every expense associated with the printing and mailing.

It saddens my heart to see the words, exploit and exploitation, appear in the commentary on your blog. The mailing was done from a heartfelt Christian perspective of helping someone in need, not exploitation of Kensi, Grace or their friends. The mailing went to a limited number of people, primarily to some members of two churches. The response has been very positive. Some of the donations have been accompanied with very sweet notes expressing their love and best wishes for the girls.

In closing I want to address the comments made in your 7:08pm post last night. Speaking for myself (and I’m sure for many, many others, including you), I do want what is best for the girls. I have not been brainwashed and am not being taken advantage of. I’ve known the Baker family for over twenty years. They are honest, hardworking, caring Christian people who have been a blessing to my family and many others in this community. I sincerely believe they will do a good job of raising Kensi and Grace and leading them into adulthood. These young ladies have already experienced more trauma than most of us have experienced in a lifetime. Adding an additional trauma by uprooting them from the community where they feel secure because of the wide and deep support system they have here will serve no purpose. I’m praying that something can be worked out between the two families. All we can do is pray and know that God is in control of all things and His will shall come to pass.


Posted by Founder of The Friends of Kensi and Grace to Don't Even Get Me Started at May 6, 2010 12:25 PM"



My response:

I very much understand and fully believe that you approached this venture from a heartfelt Christian perspective. I do. But I do not think you are seeing the whole picture.

Kensi and Grace were traumatized when their Father (a Baker) killed their Mother. To pretend this didn't happen is more trauma. To keep them in a family where they pretend the man given 65 years is innocent and getting out any day now heaps even more trauma. To pretend that their Mother committed suicide when she was murdered and taken from their world by their Father heaps trauma upon trauma upon trauma. When does that stop?

You may know the Bakers, but do you know the Dulins? They were an integral part of their granddaughters lives until Matt Baker killed Kari. Matt Baker not only ripped their daughter from this world, but with his parent’s help, removed their granddaughters from their lives. Can you imagine such pain? And for what purpose?

The following isn't something I've heard Oscar or Barbara Baker's supporters be able to say. And it is vitally important: “ Matt Baker killed Kari Baker, Kensi and Grace's Mother....Linda and Jim's daughter.....Adam's sister.” Tell me, how healthy is it for two little girls to stay with the family whose son murdered their Mother, ESPECIALLY when they will not admit the truth? This is just NOT okay. How can the girls grow up healthy and whole when they are being fed lies? Kari Baker loved her girls more than anything; she would have never left them by her own choice. Kensi and Grace need to be in an environment where they can be reminded of their mother’s love! This is just NOT okay. Barbara continues to say that Kari was despondent and depressed and even that suicide was a good option for her in "her condition." Yes, she did. Well, twelve jurors heard all of the evidence and decided unanimously and overwhelmingly that she wasn't depressed and despondent and that she DID NOT take her own life. So, what does that say about the nature of Barbara Baker? Why would such a good woman continue to vilify her dead daughter-in-law?

I am sorry but I do think the flyer is exploitation and some people that received it have contacted me and are upset. And I don't doubt that people have sent contributions feeling that they are in some way helping Kensi and Grace. I love that Kerrville is filled with people that love the girls and want the best for them and pray for them as we do here. I don't doubt that for one minute. I don't fault your motive or any givers' motives for for doing what they hope will help the girls. You say the Bakers were reluctant to have this mailed. Well, I received a copy of one of their first letters asking for money. Matt was quoting scripture. Praising God. Oh, yes....and asking for money. And who signed this letter with Matt? Barbara, Oscar, Kensi and Grace. He had those little girls (even younger at that time) put their little tiny childrens' signatures at the bottom of it. Sickening. I see a bit of a pattern here and it tells me that they may not be as reluctant as you think they are. I believe you truly believe what you say. I have seen this from the beginning. I saw the good people of Kerrville being scammed by a sexual predator and murderer....and now his Mother "doth protest too much." I do not think she is the woman you portrayed in your comment. However, I will not say more than that.

Something here just isn't right. If you really search your heart, I think you will see it. Clearly, you are a good woman who believes she is doing the right thing but I think you are incredibly wrong. No, I know you are incredibly wrong. I believe with all of my heart, that for healing to take place, Kensi and Grace must come HOME. They must come back to the family whose lives they were intertwined with before their Father murdered their Mother. They must get REAL counseling where they can learn the truth, accept it, and love their Mother.....and their Father. I know the Dulins well enough to know they will do whatever it takes to help their granddaughters heal. They LOVE their granddaughters enough to forgive and focus on their healing. I don't see that in the Bakers.

Thank you for sharing and your honesty. I return that courtesy to you with this response. There is so much more I could say. Not only have I uncovered a great deal just by going to the courthouse for myself, researching and having copies made of documents.....but I have also made many friends in Kerrville over the past few years. I have learned much from many sources. And I will use the forum of this blog to continue to uncover injustice. I still see it where Kari's daughters are concerned.

Edited this morning to add a comment left on the blog early this morning. I wanted to add it to this post here so it wouldn't be overlooked. Thank you, whoever this was.

To those who support the Bakers fight for custody:

I don't think any of you are crazy or brainwashed but, I don't get it. I don't understand how anyone who truly loves those girls could keep telling them that their Mom killed herself leaving them to go to their dead sister? Like Kari picked Kassidy over them? NEVER!

And if you still think Matt Baker is innocent, tell me HOW? Do you not see how many totally unrelated strangers from all parts of the state and country would have had to get together and concocted a story, then perjured themselves in a court of law for Matt's story to even ring partly true? Why would they do that?

Do you not get that every person who knew Kari, EVERY PERSON, except Matt, says she was not depressed. NOTHING, no e-mail, no note, no plan, no
conversation, NOTHING in Kari's life pointed to suicide outside of Matt's story and a unsigned gramaticaly incorrect typed note.

Aside from all that, can you not see that Matt's version of what happened that night is IMPOSSIBLE? Not only could Kari's death not have happened the way he said, from what he said, in the time he said, but Matt himself could not physically have done the things he said he was doing at the time.

The thing you have to understand is that no one wanted to believe that Matt killed Kari. No one. It's been a 4 year nightmare. But the facts, they just didn't add up. With that note, Matt's weird behavior after Kari died, his impossible whole-filled account of that night, his multiplying lies, horrible things surfacing from his past....Matt left us with no other option. NONE! He killed Kari and then he took her girls away from their lives.

How can you think that living with the Bakers, the people who want the girls to think their mother left them, the people who perpetuate Matt's lies everyday, the people who try to slander Kari's good name are a good for Kensi & Grace? How?

Despite what you believe or want to believe, do you realize how much more harm YOU = you personally, will bring to these girls by helping the Bakers if
you are wrong? If you are wrong the girls entire life in Kerrville is based on a lies. Knowing, as we all do, that the truth always comes out, can you imagine how horrible it will be for those girls to learn that the people who raised them were lying to them and everything they thought was true isn't? No matter what your feelings are towards the Bakers, are you willing to risk that for these two little girls who have lost so very much already?

Maybe you don't know the Dulins, but I know without a shadow of a doubt that they are and will be the best family for Kensi and Grace. They can give them a great life and bright future, without handouts might I add. They are Christian people who love God. They are successful, stable, loving people who will fight for what is right and move heaven and Earth to give Kensi and Grace the very best life possible! Our community will also do whatever we can for Kensi and Grace, just as you in Kerrville have done for these last 4 years. Those girls are so loved and continually prayed for by multitudes of Kari's friends and family.

That's what the main point of getting justice for Kari was...to let her girls know what really happened and to give them the best life possible. We owe Kari and her girls that. To love Kensi and Grace, we know how important it is to let them love both of their parents, as hard as that might be. Tell me, do the Bakers let the girls love Kari?

Please, please, please, step back and really, really think about this. AND please pray for God to honor only what is right and true in Kensi and Graces lives. Surly that is a prayer we can all share.

PS none of my questions were meant to be rhetorical. I really would like to know what you think.

Posted by A friend of Kari's to Don't Even Get Me Started at May 7, 2010 12:52 AM



Feel free to discuss any of this in comments below.

Tuesday, May 4, 2010

Hearing from Kerrville....

I actually got wind of this last week. Was disgusted. Not sure what to do, if anything. But when I received another email from the Kerrville area about this and it included the attatchment, I felt that I need to say something. Not only disgusted, but angry. It's a little long and I considered just posting excerpts but decided that all of it was pertinent. So with permission, I will share this email with you here:

"Dear Shannon,
I decided to e-mail you because of something I got in my mail yesterday. It made me terribly mad at first and now I am more sad. If you haven’t seen this then I think you will be upset too at what the Bakers are doing because we were shocked by it. They have mailed out this brochure that has pictures of the girls all over it. They are using the girls pictures to collect money for their custody fight. They have a return address on it that says Friends of Kensi and Grace Baker Fund. It tells people to encourage the girls when they see them around town and talks about their sports and youth groups. They are writing about how much money they need and there is a bank fund set up for donations. If they are so hard up for money then how can they afford to print the color brochures and postage to mail them out to everybody? I have never had any face to face dealing with the Bakers. However I have seen how things have been with this case. I started hearing about it in the news and later read this blog after Matt moved back to Kerrville . I was pretty sure he was guilty then, but when I saw the trial on In Session and it was so obvious. I never understood why he wasn’t really working. Matt was asking people for money then too, as you know. He even had the children sign their names on a letter he wrote begging for money. He took everybody’s money but why wasn’t he working a regular job to pay his own legal costs? Or even support his family like any decent man would. He wanted people to feel sorry for him. A lot of them who helped him don’t feel good about that now, trust me. Some gave money only because he was a preacher. Or they felt sorry for his parents. Well anyway he was found guilty regardless, and people are glad about that at least. I think if his mother loved him in the right way she would make him take responsibility. She would love him but not take up for him. This is crazy what she is doing. I am not giving one dime and I wish nobody else would, either. You should know there are many people in the Kerrville community who feel this way. It’s the same thing as taking the girls to court in Waco where they had no business being. And speaking for them to the newspaper. Why wasn’t he protecting them from all of this? It makes me so sad."

With this email was an attachment with the flyer/brochure. I won't post the flyer because it just completely exploits the girls. I am angered that Kensi, Grace and all the other Kerrville children in these pictures are being used in this manner. I heard via a third-party-Kerrville person that thier friend's daughter's picture was used in the brochure WITHOUT permission and that she was livid. Not only was it without permission but it implied their family supported the Bakers and their fundraising and they 100% do NOT. Even after all that has been done, I can't believe they would take pictures of other people's children and use them in their money quests.

I, too, question why Matt didn't "man up" and work over the last 2-3 years to support his family and take care of business. He can't claim that he couldn't get a job because of these horrible allegations because he and his family claimed (and still do) that he has the overwhelming support of the Kerrville community. If that's true and he was actually looking for work, you'd think people (business owners and managers) would be clamoring to help the "innocent, falsely-accused minister" in his time of need. So either he didn't want to work OR he doesn't have the support in Kerrville that he claimed/claims. Either scenario means Baker lied. Instead of working for funds for his defense and/or to raise his children, he wrote letters and made phone calls hounding people for hand-outs. A couple of these have been emailed to me in the past. The court documents show that Matt had a pickup payment of almost $700/month.....that he bought after he killed Kari. No job. $700/month for a big, nice truck? Instead of getting a job and/or selling the truck for something practical and affordable and being able to actually take care of his family, he continued driving that big, nice truck around to pick up his handouts.

Now that Matt no longer needs that truck, what's become of it? Has it been sold for much-needed funds for the custody matter or even to simply take care of the girls' basic needs? No. It's being driven by his parents. Did someone pay it off? Or are they still making payments on it? How are they affording this? Solicited funds??? What money being solicited for with flyers and brochures will actually go to benefit the girls? And are the people in charge of this fund capable of knowing and doing what is truly right for Kensi and Grace?

I feel the Bakers are exploiting their granddaughters and other community children to get the good people of Kerrville to give them more money. Question is: Will they give this time?

Monday, April 26, 2010

JFK sticker comes in handy ;)

Got this email this morning. Sharing.....with permission. Thanks, Andrew!

I did want to share with you the other night I was possiby going too fast, and well a local trooper pointed it out to me. Seems he was touched by the sticker on the back of my truck. He wanted to know about what this "Justice for Kari" was all about...I was happy to share and just get a warning. He knew about "the preacher" and could hardly contain his irritation with the saga. He was definitely pro-Kari.

Andrew Nelson

Sunday, April 25, 2010

Byrd Unit, Texas State Penitentiary at Huntsville

Baker transferred from county jail to prison to begin 65-year murder sentence
Erin Quinn
WacoTrib.com

"The former Central Texas Baptist minister will spend the next few weeks to few months at the Byrd Unit, a diagnostic intake facility where he will go through the prison-classification process, Texas Department of Criminal Justice spokesman Jason Clark said.

As part of the process, staff at the prison will evaluate Matt Baker’s educational background, mental history, medical files and work skills, Clark said." (read more)